Tucker Carlson attends a gathering with President Donald Trump and oil executives within the East Room of the White Home on Jan. 9, 2026.
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When Donald Trump first introduced that he was working for president in 2015, Tucker Carlson, then the host of Fox & Mates Weekend, was one of many few pundits who took his candidacy critically.
“[Carlson] acknowledged {that a} nativist candidate working on white grievance truly would possibly do fairly nicely in a Republican major,” New Yorker author Jason Zengerle says. “His star rose at Fox as a result of he sort of had the foresight to see Trump coming.”
In his new e book, Hated by All of the Proper Individuals: Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Thoughts, Zengerle traces Carlson’s ascendency, and explains how he grew to become one of the crucial influential individuals on the far proper.
“He’s somebody that Donald Trump positively listens to, positively needs to listen to from. And Carlson is more than pleased to supply his ideas and his recommendation,” Zengerle says. “That does not imply that Trump at all times takes that recommendation, and there have actually been cases the place Carlson’s been disillusioned by a few of Trump’s choices, however he appears to have a seat on the desk.”
Carlson bought his begin in conservative print media and transitioned to TV within the early days of cable information. After he was let go from CNN and MSNBC (now MS NOW), he was employed by Fox, then abruptly fired in 2023. He has since launched a brand new streaming present on the social media platform X, the place he is espoused far-right fringe positions, such the “nice alternative” conspiracy idea.
“Since leaving Fox, he does not have a built-in viewers anymore and he has to navigate the eye financial system. And as a way to get individuals to take heed to his podcast, I believe he has sort of embraced extra outrageous views,” Zengerle says. “He is saying issues earlier than in a extra specific vogue, whereas previously he tried to modulate his rhetoric slightly bit.”
Zengerle sees the throughline of Carlson’s profession as a need for “fame, fortune and energy.” To that finish, he wouldn’t be stunned if Carlson ran for workplace himself.
“It is a mistake to consider him as only a media determine as a result of I believe his ambitions are greater than that,” Zengerle says. “He operates as a political actor, perhaps much more than a media actor at this level.”
Interview highlights
Hated By All The Proper Individuals: Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Thoughts, by Jason Zengerle
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On Carlson’s shift from print journalism to TV within the ’90s
The issues that he was good at, by way of being glib and having an opinion on every little thing and simply with the ability to seem fairly clever on digicam, that was the beginning of his profession. … He would spend all this time and power crafting these [print] tales, and it’d get slightly little bit of a response. After which he would go on some TV present and make some off-handed comment, and a cupboard member would name him to speak about it. And I believe that it was that form of recognition that made him suppose that TV was the best way to go.
On Jon Stewart‘s 2004 look on CNN’s Crossfire, which led to the present’s cancellation
I believe [it] was a very necessary second in Tucker’s profession and life, as a result of it was a humiliation. He was form of pleasant with Stewart. … He knew, clearly, that Stewart had sort of a dim view of Crossfire and a dim view of cable information. However all of them thought they had been sort of … play appearing the best way Crossfire was, you understand? You’ll argue with this individual for half-hour after which afterwards you’d exit and have a steak and a drink and all people was form of doing the identical factor, and it was like skilled wrestling in some methods. When Stewart got here on there and wasn’t a part of that sport, I believe Tucker was actually stunned and he tried to debate Stewart and Stewart simply destroyed him, and destroyed him in entrance of a studio viewers. … It led to the cancellation of the present. It led to Tucker leaving CNN.
I believe it was a very necessary second in his life and his profession as a result of he was a member in good standing of the Washington political and media elite, and I believe he felt that his buddies in that world didn’t come to his support and didn’t help him the best way he would have wished them to. And so years later, when he developed this populist streak and actually turned in opposition to individuals in Washington and legacy media and the issues like that, I believe he remembered that second and a few of his bitterness in the direction of these individuals actually got here out at that time.
On Carlson co-founding the conservative web site The Day by day Caller in 2010 and pivoting from reporting to tabloidy content material
When he launched The Day by day Caller, his concept for it was it was going to be a right-wing model of form of a mixture [of] Huffington Publish and New York Occasions. He wished it to be a really fact-based, closely reported web site. He had a critique of conservative media that conservatives did not report, they only opined and, “We have to get again to reporting. We have to get again to presenting information, and we should be critical concerning the information.” And that was his imaginative and prescient for The Caller. I believe inside a pair months, wanting on the web site’s site visitors, he realized that there was not an viewers for that sort of conservative publication — and he pivoted, and he sort of went extra within the course of tabloidy, sort of outrageous stuff.
More and more, I believe he noticed that the kinds of tales that had been getting consideration, that had been [getting] a whole lot of site visitors, getting clicks, needed to do with race, needed to do with immigration, and needed to do with gender, and he simply leaned into that. Finally he sort of discovered himself on this competitors with Breitbart that Steve Bannon was working on the time. And it was simply sort of this race to the underside by way of who may write extra sort of inflammatory and incendiary tales about Black-on-white crime or about immigrant crime and issues like that. And he noticed that there was an viewers there for that.
On Carlson climbing the ranks at Fox
He actually was sort of an afterthought at Fox. You had the celebs, you had the Invoice O’Reillys, you had the Sean Hannitys. Tucker was simply this man who they may placed on the weekend Fox & Mates present and he had some tv expertise. He was conservative, so he wasn’t going to say something that veered from the social gathering line. He was simply sort of a bit participant. …
Then he bought his personal present, and he bought his personal present as a result of he was in a position to make use of Trump’s presidential candidacy to revive his profession. … When Trump got here alongside, these extra prestigious Fox exhibits, they’d a primary tv downside. They might not discover camera-ready, clever human beings to go on their applications and make a smart case for Donald Trump. And Tucker was somebody who may, so … he began getting extra airtime that method. After which as Trump’s candidacy took off and it grew to become clear that Trump was going to be the Republican nominee. … By the tip of the marketing campaign, [Fox News CEO] Roger Ailes had been fired due to the sexual harassment scandal. [News Corps CEO] Rupert Murdoch was now working the community. And the primary large transfer Murdoch made was taking Tucker and giving him his personal present at 7 p.m.
Thea Chaloner and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Brett Neely tailored it for the online.
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