There have been a number of moments the place Batman and Joker have had confrontations within the motion pictures; the weirdest is one which most individuals don’t even bear in mind. The primary time the 2 confronted off in a film was within the Nineteen Sixties when Adam West and Cesar Romero battled in Batman: The Film. That was adopted in 1989 when Michael Keaton’s Batman confronted off with Jack Nicholson’s Joker in Batman, after which once more in 2008 when Christian Bale’s hero confronted off with Heath Ledger’s anarchist in The Darkish Knight. What most individuals don’t appear to recollect is that there was one different confrontation between the 2, and it occurred in an Oscar-contending film. Not solely have most individuals forgotten about it, however the film’s sequel additionally didn’t even reference it.
On October 4, 2019, Joker hit theaters, and it featured one of many weirdest scenes ever involving Joker and Batman. This scene noticed Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) meet a younger Bruce Wayne at Wayne Manor, years earlier than Batman and Joker grew to become lethal enemies. Curiously, Joker: Folie à Deux by no means even talked about this assembly within the sequel 5 years later.
Joker Met a Younger Bruce Wayne in Joker

In Joker, the film follows a person named Arthur Fleck, a celebration clown who’s an aspiring slapstick comedian in Gotham Metropolis. He lives along with his mom and suffers from a psychological affliction that causes him to interrupt into laughter when he’s nervous. He’s additionally somebody who, because the film exhibits on the finish, lives with a psychological dysfunction wherein he can’t inform actuality from what is occurring in his thoughts. By the tip, nearly all the pieces good that occurs to him within the film seems to be him dwelling in a fantasy world. The one second that exhibits this was when the girl he believes he has been courting has barely ever spoken to him, and it was all in his thoughts. This implies nearly nothing that occurs will be taken at face worth.
Whereas the film has little to do with Batman or the DC model of the Joker, there was one second that tied Arthur Fleck to the story of Bruce Wayne. Fleck’s mom had letters that made it appear as if Thomas Wayne (Brett Cullen) was her son’s actual father from when she labored for him. Fleck desires greater than something to show that is true so he will be a part of Wayne’s household and have one thing to name his personal. This all involves a head when he approaches Thomas Wayne at a celebration and makes the declare, which causes him to get assaulted and thrown out of the celebration. Whether or not that is actually what occurred or not stays unknown.
Nevertheless, earlier than this occurred, Fleck went to Wayne Manor and stood exterior the gates. That’s when a younger Bruce Wayne (Dante Pereira-Olson) walked up and noticed him. He spoke to Bruce and placed on his clown nostril to make the boy chuckle. That’s when Alfred Pennyworth (Douglas Hodge) arrived and threatened Fleck, ordering him to go away. This was one of many strangest moments in Joker and Batman historical past, and it’s one thing that most individuals have forgotten about.
The Joker Sequel Ignored This Second (& Followers Forgot It Too)

Even the Joker sequel ignored the second, in addition to nearly all the pieces concerning the Thomas Wayne story generally. In Joker: Folie à Deux, Fleck is in Arkham State Hospital awaiting his trial, and he meets a younger girl named Harleen Quinzel. It is a story about Joker and Harley Quinn, or at the least it’s about Arthur Fleck and a lady who’s obsessive about the concept of the Joker, however not Fleck himself. With that storyline as the main focus, there isn’t a room for Thomas Wayne, and there’s no want for the younger Bruce Wayne to return both.
Since Fleck has moved on from discovering his actual father, and since his mom is useless, the complete thought of Thomas Wayne being his father isn’t essential anymore. In consequence, Fleck has put it in his previous, together with most of his different trauma, as he focuses solely on his day-to-day life in Arkham and the prodding from Harley to turn out to be greater than he’s. If the primary Joker film had little to do with Batman or DC Comics, the sequel had even much less to do with both. If director Todd Phillips doesn’t care about Batman and Joker, there isn’t a motive to care about their relationship both.
What did you consider the Joker and Bruce Wayne assembly in Joker? Did it make sense to you, or was it simply squeezed in to attach it to DC Comics? Tell us within the feedback under.